Leadership Can Be a Tricky Balance

Audrey Cooper

08.16.19

Audrey Cooper, first female editor-in-chief of the San Francisco Chronicle, on some of her not-so-great bosses, and some of the “leadership styles” she finds intolerable. “Bully” bosses, and bosses who can’t or won’t articulate what you need to do to improve top her list.

Summary:

Audrey Cooper, first female editor-in-chief of the San Francisco Chronicle, on some of her not-so-great bosses, and some of the “leadership styles” she finds intolerable. “Bully” bosses, and bosses who can’t or won’t articulate what you need to do to improve top her list.

Terrible bosses. We’ve all had them. Audrey talks with Thuy about some of her favorite bad examples.

Thuy

You have probably worked for some really great bosses.
Audrey_Cooper

Audrey Cooper

Yeah.

Thuy

And probably for some who weren't so great.
Stan_McChrystal

Stan McChrystal

Well yes, maybe.

Thuy

What are the top two not so effective ways to lead?
Audrey_Cooper

Audrey Cooper

I only get to pick two?

Thuy

We only have an hour.
Audrey_Cooper

Audrey Cooper

The first...I don't do bullies at all. Mean is not something that I respond well to at all. So the people who belittle, who insult, who act like you're stupid. And I have to say there are a lot of those men particularly in the news business I have to say. And that's kind of rewarded, that aggressiveness seems to have been rewarded over time. And I just, I don't, I can't tolerate that at all. And I think if you asked anyone that works at the Chronicle they would say that I'm tough, but I'm very clear. And I also have that, you know, side where you have to lift people up.

The second thing I think is really ineffective is the bosses who are frustrated with you, and they can't articulate why. Or won't articulate why. That is really, I think, a problem, because if you can't be straight with somebody about what their flaws are...I really think everybody wants to succeed. And sometimes you can't see what's in your own blind spot. And so I think bosses who can't do that are really... can be destructive.

Thuy

And communication is so important right? Because of you don't tell that person you're also not giving that person an opportunity to course correct, to be better.
Audrey_Cooper

Audrey Cooper

Absolutely, and I've been course corrected more times than I might care to admit

Thuy

No!
Audrey_Cooper

Audrey Cooper

And I really like that, because if you tell me I'm doing something, like, I will fix it.